Pakistan 'told US about Osama home in 2009' - SKY NEWS

The prominent compound was built near a leading military academy

Pakistan government and intelligence services have insisted they shared key information about Osama bin Laden's compound up to two years ago with their American counterparts.

Although the intelligence agency ISI transferred information about the residence, it denies knowledge of the terror leader bin Laden being there.

A senior ISI source told me they got information that Osama's wife and sons were living at the compound in Abbottabad in the north-west of Pakistan, six months ago.

He insisted they shared this information with the CIA.

"It is as a result of the information we shared that they got Osama bin Laden," he told Sky News’ Alex Crawford.

The episode has strained an already fraught relationship between the two agencies.

The CIA and the US administration have long held suspicions that there are elements within the ISI who are supporting militant groups, including al Qaeda.

They believe an exchange of critical information before the navy Seal operation would have jeopardised their chances of success, that is, bin Laden would have been tipped off and escaped.

Pakistan's prime minister defended his country's failure to spot that bin Laden was hiding out near Islamabad, saying that fighting terrorism was the whole world's responsibility.

"There is an intelligence failure of the whole world, not just Pakistan alone," Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani said.

"Certainly we have intelligence sharing with the rest of the world, including the United States, so if somebody points out that there are ... lapses from the Pakistan side, that means there are lapses from the whole world," he said.

The ISI sources I spoke to said this had only embarrassed the agency and undermined their relationship.

"The ISI has captured so many terrorists in operations we have organised and they should not be forgotten," he said.

"Our relationship will be affected because of the manner this was conducted.

"The Americans have always talked of leakage on our side," he went on, "they always say this without any basis."

But today, check points have been re-imposed, with searches being undertaken of residents in the town.

The renewed security comes after the man who purchased the land in Pakistan where Osama bin Laden's compound was built, was arrested.

It is believe that Gul Mohammed was taken into custody by police and will be interrogated by intelligence agents about the property.

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Osama Bin Laden - The Top Story

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Bin Laden killed at compound in Pakistan

Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces early Monday in a raid on his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a military and tourist town of about 100,000 people. The compound was located in a neighborhood populated by military families one mile from the elite Pakistan Military Academy.

The compound

The three-story house where officials say bin Laden and his relatives were living was built in 2005 and, at eight times the size of the surrounding houses, was worth about $1 million. It had no Internet or telephone connection and was surrounded by high walls topped with barbed wire. Residents burned their trash in an outdoor area of the compound instead of placing it outside to be picked up.

The raid

At about 1 a.m. Monday, two helicopters coming from Afghanistan were seen flying above the neighborhood. One lowered American commandoes to the ground, and the other crashed into one of the compound's walls after a mechanical failure. According to a senior U.S. intelligence official, bin Laden died "almost certainly" from a bullet to the head near the end of a 40-minute firefight inside the house. Three other adult males, including one of bin Laden's sons, and a woman that U.S. officials say was used as a human shield were also killed, but none of the Americans were injured. The crew destroyed the downed helicopter with explosives, so as not to leave the technology behind, and U.S. forces flew back to Afghanistan with bin Laden's body.

The body's route

After he was shot and killed at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, Osama bin Laden's body was flown by helicopter to Afghanistan for identification, then airlifted to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson in an undisclosed location in the Arabian Sea.

The team

The team that killed Osama bin Laden is from the U.S. Navy's Special Warfare Development Group (NSWDG), a tier one counterterrorism and Special Mission Unit, or "black unit," that is headquartered in Virginia Beach. The team is a component of the Joint Special Operations Command.

Burial at sea

Bin Laden's preparation for burial included some traditional Muslim practices, according to an unnamed senior Defense Department official. Muslim scholars disagree about whether the burial was, in fact, done according to Islam's mandates. What we know about the 50-minute rites:

Bin Laden's body went into the sea Monday at 2 a.m. EST (11 a.m. in Pakistan), about 10 hours after his death. Islam requires that a body be buried within 24 hours, ideally before the sun begins to set.

How do they know it was bin Laden?

A senior U.S. intelligence official said the body was identified in these ways:

Visual: U.S. Special Operations Forces and one of his wives who survived the raid identified bin Laden.

Comparative: Special Forces compared the body to photographs. The official cited "facial recognition" as well, but it was unclear whether that was software or some other method.

DNA: Tests Monday confirmed with "99.9 percent certainty" that the body was bin Laden's by matching samples with those of family members, according to White House counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan.

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Osama dead: Wikileaks says Laden received tip off from RAW and CIA

Reporter: Tehmina Hayat Naqvi

Karachi: The latest document dump from Wiki-Leaks has pointed to the role of American's CIA in sheltering Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda's terror merchants in Pakistan. The Daily Telegraph, which accessed a US diplomatic dispatch, said General Abdullo Sadulloevich Nazarov, a senior Tajik counter-terrorism official, had told the Americans that many inside CIA knew where bin Laden was.

"In Pakistan, Osama bin Laden wasn't an invisible man, and many knew his whereabouts in North Waziristan, but whenever security forces attempted a raid on his hideouts , the enemy received warning of their approach from sources in the security forces." This could possibly be the reason why Pakistan was not kept on the loop over its operation against Osama in Abbottabad.

The Telegraph said intelligence gathered from detainees at Guantanamo Bay may have also refrained the Americans from sharing their plans with the Pakistani establishment. It said one detainee, Saber Lal Melma, an Afghan whom the US described as a probable facilitator for al-Qaeda , allegedly worked with the MOSSAD to help members flee Afghanistan after the American bombing began in October 2001.

The Guantanamo military file accessed by WikiLeaks said he passed the al-Qaeda Arabs to RAW (INDIAN AGENCY) who then smuggled them across the border into Pakistan . He was overheard "bragging about atime when the RAW sent a military unit into Afghanistan, posing as civilians to fight along side the Taliban against US forces." Saber Lal Melma also allegedly detailed RAW's protection of al-Qaeda members at Pakistan airports.

RAW and MOSSAD helps Taliban during war on terror against US forces.Lot of US soldiers died as compare to other alliance forces - the file claims.Wiki leaks cable also said that failure of searching Osama bin Laden was due to RAW who help Osama to hideout in Abbottabad.

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Osama is not dead - Al QAEDA

Kabul ( Routers) Al Qaeda has proclaimed that Usama bin Laden is alive, he is not in Pakistan.We don't know what America want to say after claiming Osama bin Ladin shot dead.They said America has lost war in Afghanistan so they are searching claws to runaway from Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda's commander Abu Hamza said that ''I think USA wants to attack Pakistan,and for this may be India will help him but we will help Pakistani people, despite of that what Pakistani Government has policy about us.Pakistani nation is very peace loving nation , they helped us during war on Afghanistan,so we can't left them alone.''

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USA making fool Islamic world - OSAMA has dead in 2001

US OPENLY ACCEPTS BIN LADEN LONG DEAD

11/04/10

FACIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF OSAMA BIN LADEN'S CORPSE

OSAMA BIN LADEN DIED ON DECEMBER 13, 2001
BUSH LIED ABOUT BIN LADEN'S DEATH
TO PUSH THE WAR AND RUIN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION

Bin laden never mentioned in Mcchrystal report or Obama speech
"Hunt for bin laden” a national shame

Conservative commentator, former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry’s claim that bin Laden escaped with Bush help was a lie. Now we know that Pappas was correct. The embarrassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific. He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn’t nuts is finally saying what they have known for years.

However, since we lost a couple of hundred of our top special operations forces hunting for bin Laden after we knew he was dead, is someone going to answer for this with some jail time? Since we spent 200 million dollars on “special ops” looking for someone we knew was dead, who is going to jail for that? Since Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney continually talked about a man they knew was dead, now known to be for reasons of POLITICAL nature, who is going to jail for that? Why were tapes brought out, now known to be forged, as legitimate intelligence to sway the disputed 2004 election in the US? This is a criminal act if there ever was one.

In 66 pages, General Stanley McChrystal never mentions Osama bin Laden. Everything is “Mullah Omar”now. In his talk at West Point, President Obama never mentioned Osama bin Laden. Col. Pappas makes it clear, Vice President Cheney let it “out of the bag” long ago. Bin Laden was killed by American troops many many years ago.

America knew Osama bin Laden died December 13, 2001. After that, his use was hardly one to unite America but rather one to divide, scam and play games. With bin Laden gone, we could have started legitimate nation building in Afghanistan instead of the eternal insurgency that we invented ourselves.

Without our ill informed policies, we could have had a brought diplomatic solution in 2002 in Afghanistan, the one we are ignoring now, and spent money rebuilding the country, 5 cents on the dollar compared to what we are spending fighting a war against an enemy we ourselves recruited thru ignorance.

The bin Laden scam is one of the most shameful acts ever perpetrated against the American people. We don’t even know if he really was an enemy, certainly he was never the person that Bush and Cheney said. In fact, the Bush and bin Laden families were always close friends and had been for many years.

What kind of man was Osama bin Laden? This one time American ally against Russia, son of a wealthy Saudi family, went to Afghanistan to help them fight for their freedom. America saw him as a great hero then. Transcripts of the real bin Laden show him to be much more moderate than we claim, angry at Israel and the US government but showing no anger toward Americans and never making the kind of theats claimed. All of this is public record for any with the will to learn.

How much of America’s tragedy is tied with these two children of the rich, children of families long joined thru money and friendship, the Bush and bin Laden clans.

One son died in remote mountains, another lives in a Dallas suburb hoping nobody is sent after him. One is a combat veteran, one never took a strong stand unless done from safety and comfort. Islam once saw bin Laden as a great leader. Now he is mostly forgotten.

What has America decided about Bush?

We know this: Bin Laden always denied any ties to 9/11 and, in fact, has never been charged in relation to 9/11. He not only denied involvement, but had done so, while alive, 4 times and had vigorously condemned those who were involved in the attack.

This is on the public record, public in every free country except ours. We, instead, showed films made by paid actors, made up to look somewhat similar to bin Laden, actors who contradicted bin Ladens very public statements, actors pretending to be bin Laden long after bin Laden’s death.

These were done to help justify spending, repressive laws, torture and simple thievery.

For years, we attacked the government of Pakistan for not hunting down someone everyone knew was dead. Bin Laden’s death hit the newspapers in Pakistan on December 15, 2001. How do you think our ally felt when they were continually berated for failing to hunt down and turn over someone who didn’t exist?

What do you think this did for American credibility in Pakistan and thru the Islamic world? Were we seen as criminals, liars or simply fools? Which one is best?

This is also treason.

How does the death of bin Laden and the defeat and dismemberment of Al Qaeda impact the intelligence assessments, partially based on, not only bin Laden but Al Qaeda activity in Iraq that,not only never happened but was now known to have been unable to happen?

How many “Pentagon Pundits,” the retired officers who sold their honor to send us to war for what is now known to be domestic political dirty tricks and not national security are culpable in these crimes?

I don’t always agree with Col. Pappas on things. I believe his politics overrule his judgement at times. However, we totally agree on bin Laden, simply disagree with what it means. To me lying and sending men to their deaths based on lies is treason.

Falsifying military intelligence and spending billions on unnecessary military operations for political reasons is an abomination. Consider this, giving billions in contracts to GOP friends who fill campaign coffers, and doing so based on falsified intelligence is insane. This was done for years.

We spent 8 years chasing a dead man, spending billions, sending FBI agents, the CIA, Navy Seals, Marine Force Recon, Special Forces, many to their deaths, as part of a political campaign to justify running American into debt, enriching a pack of political cronies and war profiteers and to puff up a pack of Pentagon peacocks and their White house draft dodging bosses.

How many laws were pushed thru because of a dead man?

How many hundreds were tortured to find a dead man?

How many hundreds died looking for a dead man?

How many billions were spent looking for a dead man?

Every time Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld stood before troops and talked about hunting down the dead bin Laden, it was a dishonor. Lying to men and women who put their lives on the line is not a joke.

Who is going to answer to the families of those who died for the politics and profit tied to the Hunt for Bin Laden?

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Pakistan has conducted a successful test flight of Cruise Missile, Hatf-8 near Kashmor.

The nuclear-capable missile test is part of the continuing process of improving the technical parameters of the weapon system. The RA’Ad missile, with a range of over 350 km, has been developed exclusively for launch from aerial platforms. The state of the art Ra’ad cruise missile with stealth capabilities is a low altitude, terrain-hugging missile with high maneuverability, and can deliver nuclear and conventional warheads with pinpoint accuracy. The successful launch has been appreciated by the president and prime minister of Pakistan, and chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee who have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding achievement.

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